Veterans forced to prove they’re worthy of gun rights: Soldiers told 2nd Amendment no longer applies to them

Yep, we were dupes. I devote a good deal of my time to preparing my fellow dupes for their “homecoming.” The hardest part of the whole ordeal is coming home to a place you have never been. And it really gets rough along about the time you wake up and finally realize that you have been betrayed–lied to, used and abused and then dropped like a used condom. — jtl, 419

by Bob Unruh via World Net Daily

The Obama administration insists it’s routine for officials to send out  letters informing veterans that an unidentified “report” indicates they may be  declared incompetent and consequently stripped of their Second Amendment  rights.

Injuries incurred by service members are cover...
Injuries incurred by service members are covered by the Veteran Administration.

It’s the same administration that in 2009 warned  that “returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are  attractive to rightwing extremists.” 

The 2009 report, from the Department of Homeland Security, was called “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence  in Radicalization and Recruitment.” It also said Obama’s governmental managers  were “concerned that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize  returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities.”

So when hundreds, perhaps thousands, of veterans began receiving letters like  the one dispatched from the Portland, Ore., office of the Department of Veterans  Affairs, alarm bells went off.

WND reported only days ago that a  veteran in Oregon received a letter informing him of “a report from Portland VA  Medical Center on December 3, 2012.”

Evidence already in

The letter warned the vet that “evidence indicates that you are not able to  handle your VA benefit payments because of a physical or mental condition.”

“We propose to rate you incompetent for VA purposes. This means we must  decide if you are able to handle your VA benefit payments. We will base our  decision on all the evidence we already have including any other evidence you  sent to us.”

Completion of the incompetency determination would mean a “fiduciary” would  be appointed to manage the veteran’s payments.

The VA also warned: “A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from  purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If  you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned,  or both.”

The letter then offered the veteran an opportunity to “request a personal  hearing within 30 days from the date at the top of this letter to present  evidence or argument on any important point in your claim.”

But it said the VA will not pay some of the expenses of the hearing.

“If we don’t hear from you within the next 60 days, we will assume you have  no additional evidence and do not want a hearing. After those 60 days we will  make our decision using the evidence we already have and tell you our  decision.”

The letter was signed by K. Kalama, Veterans Service Center manager in the  Oregon Department of Veterans Affairs. But it didn’t present the “evidence,” the  source of the evidence or why the veteran’s competency even was questioned.

The veteran contacted the United States Justice  Foundation, which defends civil and religious rights, and now that  organization reports a flood of similar concerns expressed by veterans across  the country.

In a  statement on the organization’s website, Executive Director Michael Connelly  said his organization is pursuing a Freedom of Information Act request with the  Department of Veterans Affairs to “force them to disclose the criteria they are  using to place veterans on the background check list that keeps them from  exercising their Second Amendment rights.”

“Then we will take whatever legal steps are necessary to protect our American  warriors,” he wrote.

WND contacted the Department of Veterans Affairs, and spokesman Randy Noller  responded with a statement that the letters were no more than routine. But  questions about why the letters are being sent, what evidence is used to  determine a veteran is incapable of managing his or her affairs, who provides  that information and why it is provided remain unanswered.

“The Department of Veterans Affairs’ policy to inform veterans of their  rights regarding the Brady Act has not changed,” the statement said. “As has  been policy for multiple administrations, VA acts in accordance with federal law  and works with the Department of Justice to properly maintain the NICS database.  VA notifies any veteran who may be deemed by VA to be mentally incapable of  managing his or her own funds of the opportunity to contest this determination  and also to seek relief from the reporting requirements under the Brady Act, as  required by law.”

Also unanswered were who makes the decision to put in motion the department’s  decision to “deem” veterans “mentally incapable” and protections are recognized  for veterans before their constitutional rights are withdrawn.

The VA did include some background that the law allows such actions for those  who “have been ‘adjudicated as a mental defective.’” But the VA declined to  provide information about any adjudication process.

It only said, “Before VA makes determinations of incompetency it affords the  affected individuals due process – advance notice and an opportunity to be heard  and submit evidence of their ability to manage funds.”

The letters, apparently, comprise the notice.

But all does not sit well with Connelly, whose organization is digging now  into matter.

The Oregon letter, he said, sounds “like something right from a documentary  on a tyrannical dictatorship somewhere in the world.”

“Yet, as I write this I have a copy of such a letter right in front of me,” he said. “It is being sent by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to  hundreds, perhaps thousands, of America’s heroes.”

No specifics

Connelly noted the letter “provides no specifics on the reasons for the  proposed finding of incompetency; just that is based on a determination by  someone in the VA.”

“In every state in the United States no one can be declared incompetent to  administer their own affairs without due process of law and that usually  requires a judicial hearing with evidence being offered to prove to a judge that  the person is indeed incompetent,” he explained.

“This is a requirement of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that  states that no person shall ‘be deprived of life, liberty, or property without  due process of law.’

“Obviously, the Department of Veterans Affairs can’t be bothered by such  impediments as the Constitution, particularly since they are clearly pushing to  fulfill one of Obama’s main goals, the disarming of the American people. Janet  Napolitano has already warned law enforcement that some of the most dangerous  among us are America’s heroes, our veterans, and now according to this letter  from the VA they can be prohibited from buying or even possessing a firearm  because of a physical or mental disability,” Connelly wrote.

Connelly argued there “are no clear criteria for the VA to declare a veteran  incompetent.”

“It can be the loss of a limb in combat, a head injury, a diagnosis of PTSD,  or even a soldier just telling someone at the VA that he or she is depressed  over the loss of a buddy in combat. In none of these situations has the person  been found to be a danger to themselves or others. If that was the case than all  of the Americans who have suffered from PTSD following the loss of a loved one  or from being in a car accident would also have to be disqualified from owning  firearms. It would also mean that everyone who has ever been depressed for any  reason should be disarmed. In fact, many of the veterans being deprived of their  rights have no idea why it is happening,” Connelly said.

He said the issue raises another huge question.

“We have to ask who will be next. If you are receiving a Social Security  check will you get one of these letters? Will the government declare that you  are incompetent because of your age and therefore banned from firearm ownership.  It certainly fits in with the philosophy and plans of the Obama administration,” he wrote.

Read the letter here:

Bob Maginnis, senior fellow for national security at Family  Research Council, which was attacked by an unstable left-winger with a gun  just last year, told WND there is a legitimate concern that some veterans  affected by the stress and violence of war may not be good candidates to possess  arms caches.

There are processes, however, that should be followed, he said.

Maginnis is a retired Army lieutenant colonel and senior strategist with the  Army and has served in study groups for the Army chief of staff.

He notes that of those veterans returning from Middle East conflicts, battle  wounds and skeleton issues are the top two reasons for their departure. Third is  mental issues.

And it’s a fact that suicide among veterans is higher than the general  population, he said.

Big  Brother? Read all about him, in “One Nation Under Surveillance.”

“It would not be hard to conclude that perhaps people who have been in combat  and have now had to go find medical assistance … could potentially be a marker  for problems,” he said.

“Look at the veteran population that is homeless. That’s a marker as  well.”

But he also said for the government “to suggest they’re going to come in and  take over financial situation without a court order; I’m very concerned about  that.”

Rees Lloyd, a longtime civil rights attorney who is past commander and judge  advocate for the American Legion in California, told WND the issue is not that  complicated: A government power is announcing to veterans they will be stripped  of their rights unless they can prove themselves innocent.

Deemed guilty

“I don’t know of any other class of Americans being deemed to be guilty  rather than presumed to be innocent,” he told WND. “What the VA is doing, and  has done consistently, is treat American veterans if we are the enemy, instead  of the defenders of America.”

He said the issue was being brought to the attention of the Legion.

“I would think it’s very likely there will be a resolution soon,” he  said.

“I don’t know any of other Americans ‘deemed’ to be incompetent because of  [war injuries and stress,]” he said. “I have stress every time I read of the  latest government atrocities. They haven’t classified me yet that I can’t obtain  a weapon.”

He called it the “bureaucratic version of racial profiling.”

“If you have stress and you’re a vet, you can’t own a weapon,” he said.

WND previously reported DHS Secretary  Janet Napolitano made terrorists portrayed in a public service announcement look  Caucasian.

The PSA depicted a typical woman terrorist would be Caucasian, in her late  20s or early 30s, with brunette hair, stylish clothing, high heels and a  shoulder bag. A man? About the same age, short hair, wearing a shirt and slacks  and familiar with technology, as he’s wearing an earpiece cellphone. And  Caucasian.

The PSA asks that people watch out for those types of individuals and report  them to authorities.

As WND reported, a West Point study  released by the U.S. Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center linked those  with “fundamental” positions, such as opposing abortion, to terror.

The study, “Challenges  from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right,” says the  major far-right threats are from “a racist/white supremacy movement, an  anti-federalist movement and a fundamentalist movement.”

Active threat

Author Arie Perliger cites “anti-abortionists” as an active threat for  terrorist activity.

“The anti-abortionists have been extremely productive during the last two  decades, amassing 227 attacks, many of them perpetrated without the responsible  perpetrators identified or caught,” Perliger wrote. “And while, in both cases,  the 1990s were more violent than the last decade, in the case of anti-abortion,  the trend is much more extreme, as 90 percent of attacks were perpetrated before  2001.”

American Life League President Judie Brown  believes this is a smear tactic.

“I can see exactly what is going on with reference to the pro-life movement.  The use of two words expose the bias and hatred for what we stand for as a  movement. Those words are ‘attacks’ and ‘violence’,” Brown said.

Herb Titus, a constitutional law  professor, former dean of the Regent University School of Law and distinguished  fellow with the   Inter-American Institute for Philosophy, Government, and Social Thought,  says it’s an attempt to link conservative thought with violence.

“Professor Perliger has adopted the strategy of many left-wing members of the  professoriate, concentrating on the behavior of a few in order to discredit many  who hold similar views but who do not engage in any form of violence,” Titus  said.

“His theory is that of the iceberg, that which as seen may be small, but it  hides what is a much larger threat just below the surface. Obviously, the  professor disagrees with those who favor small government, cutting back of  federal government encroachments upon the powers of the state and to discredit  this movement focuses on a few gun-toting militia,” Titus said.

Titus turns his attention to who he believes is the source of the study.

“Like so many in the Obama administration, Perliger does not want to engage  in any dialogue on the issues, but just discredit an entire political movement  by ad hominem charged words,” Titus said. “Perliger is not a serious scholar,  but a propagandist for the existing regime.”

Said Connelly about the developing controversy with veterans: “The reality is  that Obama will not get all of the gun control measures he wants through  Congress, and they wouldn’t be enough for him anyway. He wants a totally  disarmed America so there will be no resistance to his plans to rob us of our  nation.”

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4 Responses to Veterans forced to prove they’re worthy of gun rights: Soldiers told 2nd Amendment no longer applies to them

  1. Brian Patrick Corcoran says:

    That reminds me.  How is the book coming along?

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  2. Reblogged this on aurorawatcherak and commented:
    Living in a military town, I too am a bit concerned about some recently returned soldiers and their behavior with guns — particularly in the parking lots of local bars. However, I’d rather risk that than deny a veteran his constitutional rights. Where did we get the idea that we could withhold constitutional rights from anybody? First it was felons, then it was the mentally ill, now it’s veterans. Who next? Grandmothers? Pregnant women? Men who have to commute more than 20 miles a day? At what point to we recognize that “natural rights” means we’ve all got them and we aren’t allowed to take them away?

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